"Mummy, Mummy, can I have a spoon."
"why?"
"An apostate's been sick, and he has eaten all the big pieces."
THE GLADIATOR
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Do you think JWs know what apostates really are?
by KateWild inmy friend was slagging off one of my other friends saying they have been known to say apotate things.
she does apostate things herself without realising it.
she meant well because she fears the word apostate as i once did, but she openly says to me my jc was lacking in holy spirit.. she doesn't have a clue what apostacy really is she just wants me not to mix with ones who have been known said "apostate things".
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Do you think JWs know what apostates really are?
by KateWild inmy friend was slagging off one of my other friends saying they have been known to say apotate things.
she does apostate things herself without realising it.
she meant well because she fears the word apostate as i once did, but she openly says to me my jc was lacking in holy spirit.. she doesn't have a clue what apostacy really is she just wants me not to mix with ones who have been known said "apostate things".
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THE GLADIATOR
Taken from, Can Jehovah's Witnesses Survive? by Trevor Willis (Formating not preserved)
How can we protect ourselves against false teachers? The Bible's counsel regarding how to deal with them is clear. (Read Romans 16:17; 2 John 9-11.) ‘Avoid them,’ says God's Word. Other translations render that phrase ‘turn away from them,’ ‘keep away from them,’ and ‘stay away from them!’ There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel. Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease. You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, apostates are ‘mentally diseased,’ and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings. (1 Tim. 6:3) Will you heed Jehovah's warnings? The Watchtower - 15 July 2011
The notion that members who leave are mentally diseased was based on a scripture, from their own translation:
If any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to healthful words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, nor to the teaching that accords with godly devotion, he is puffed up [with pride] not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words. 1 Timothy 6:3, 4 - New World Translation
Other translations use terms such as: morbid interest, unhealthy interest, unhealthy craving
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TheGreat Tribulation was in the 1st century
by maccauk11 in"then there will be a great tribulation, not seen since the beginning of time nor will everoccure again.
im saying,christ was talking about the comingdestruction of jerusalem in the 1st century and not the end of the world but the end of the jewish system of things.
there is no end of the world.
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THE GLADIATOR
The Importance of 1914
As Jesus was said to have begun his Kingdom reign in 1914, how much longer could the New World be in coming? The hopes of the Jehovah's Witnesses still hung on a statement made by Jesus. Having condemned the Scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy and treatment of the prophets, Jesus went on to speak of the destruction of Jerusalem. He was talking to the Scribes and Pharisees and telling them they would pay for the wrong they had done with their lives:
Truly I say to you. All these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets… Matthew 23:36, 37 - New World Translation
Jesus then left them and was approached by his disciples who asked him to look at the temple buildings with them. Jesus was asked by them when the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of their temple would be. He then gave a detailed description of the events leading up to this. Jesus then repeated his statement concerning the generation then living to his disciples:
I tell you this: this present generation will live to see it all. Matthew24:34- The New English Bible
Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur. Matthew 24:34 - New World Translation
(Taken from, Can Jehovah’s Witnesses Survive? By Trevor Willis)
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Do you think JWs know what apostates really are?
by KateWild inmy friend was slagging off one of my other friends saying they have been known to say apotate things.
she does apostate things herself without realising it.
she meant well because she fears the word apostate as i once did, but she openly says to me my jc was lacking in holy spirit.. she doesn't have a clue what apostacy really is she just wants me not to mix with ones who have been known said "apostate things".
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THE GLADIATOR
Apparently, an apostate is a dog that has returned to its own vomit. Not nice!
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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THE GLADIATOR
humbled Gladiator--A quote similar to the one you gave "Fortune favours the brave" is one from Terence McKenna "Nature loves courage".
An excellent post - I have been humbled.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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THE GLADIATOR
caliber And while happily blaming God for the hundreds of thousands that have died...
I get what you’re saying. It’s not fair to blame a god for natural disasters or failing to save humans.
Personally, I don’t blame a god. I don’t believe in gods, fairies, pixies, elf’s, goblins, Santa clause, demons, mystical dragons, unicorns, or any of the other figments of the imagination that bring both comfort and horror to the human mind.
We live in a cruel world, and some humans are the cruellest creatures alive. If a man is cruel, I blame the man because he is aware of what he is doing. If a lion savagely kills and eats a Zebra there is no blame. That is nature and the survival of the fittest at work. If every meat eating animal became a vegetarian the balance of nature would collapse; not enough grassland and too many animals due to no natural predators.
Nature worked very well for millions of years until humans became too abundant. So, god is off the hook. Natural disasters are simply a part of living in a hostile planet; part of the lottery of life.
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
Fortune favours the brave
* Well done Cofty - the forum’s voice of reason.
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The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.
by never a jw ini am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.
do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.
elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.
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THE GLADIATOR
The Watchtower Society have claimed to be responsible for the personal beliefs of the membership for more than 100 years. They have always said they speak for Jehovah. Take a look at this quote from 1952. Nothing has changed:
We should meekly go along with the Lord’s theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than baulk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave’s provision of spiritual food. Theocratic ones will appreciate the Lord’s visible organization and not be so foolish as to pit against Jehovah’s channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings. The Watchtower 2 January 1952 - page 8
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33 percent of Americans reject evolution
by Simon inhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616373-71/33-percent-of-americans-reject-evolution/.
that seems to be a disturbingly high number for a western / educated / developed nation.. does this have anything at all to do with america slipping behind in the sciences?
it seems hard to imagine they could not not be linked somehow.. no surprise that the jesus party (republicans) reject evolution the most.
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THE GLADIATOR
I have heard a rumour that Richard Dawkins is to be the next UK prime minister.
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The END did NOT come in their lifetime!!
by DATA-DOG ini don't know about the rest of you, but i have seen my fair share of death.
both sets of grandparents, aunts and uncles, older jws that were pillars in the community.
i even knew the first missionary in missouri, a brother named gerald golf.
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THE GLADIATOR
Ah Datadog, I have had the pleasure of watching those that shun me, and await my death at the had of thier Hebrew desert god, die one by one. Not many left to go now.
It has not been this good since I fought in the arena for Caesar. To the death.
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Can we sue the WTBTS???
by quellycatface ini was reading an old article in a british newspaper about some jw's (in portsmouth) who had called the police regarding the wording in the 2011 wt, that if someone had da'd, left etc... re; questioning the wt teachings then they were "mentally diseased.
" they said this was "inciting religous hatred".
has this been mentioned again anywhere in the jw literature???.
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THE GLADIATOR
The laws that apply in business do not apply to religious organizations. If the law was applied fairly all Bibles would be burned, eg. A dog returning to it’s vomit. Hey - didn’t someone try burning Bibles.